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 Post subject: Punched Out: the life and death of Derek Boogaard
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:24 am 
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The New York Times has published a series of articles on Derek Boogaard, with the last of the articles appearing in today's edition.

Part 1: Learning to brawl
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/sport ... brawl.html

Part 2: Blood on the ice
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/sport ... e-ice.html

Part 3: A brain "going bad"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/sport ... g-bad.html

Of course, Bettman has said there's no link between traumatic brain injuty and hockey. I'd sooner trust the researchers from Boston University’s Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy when they say Boogaard brain was damaged.


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Bettman has a point though. How much of his brain damage was caused by being punched in the head on the ice? He trained to fight (read: he paid people to punch him in the head off the ice). Also what affect did drugs play? You can't just blame it on hockey.

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I see your point. The other factor is to what extent are team doctors responsible for prescribing excessive amounts of percoset and oxycodone in contributing to Boogaard's drug habit.


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Duck droppings wrote:
I see your point. The other factor is to what extent are team doctors responsible for prescribing excessive amounts of percoset and oxycodone in contributing to Boogaard's drug habit.
or how much his brother gave him

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I think it's a reasonable assumption that hockey players who regularly fight are doing some kind of brain damage. Just like boxers. And I can't wait to see down the road the effects MMA has on its combatants.

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Codes wrote:
I think it's a reasonable assumption that hockey players who regularly fight are doing some kind of brain damage. Just like boxers. And I can't wait to see down the road the effects MMA has on its combatants.
i think it has an affect sure. but how much is caused from training to fight and how much is from in game fighting? you don't need to train yourself to fight to be an NHL player

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 Post subject: Re: Punched Out: the life and death of Derek Boogaard
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Duck droppings wrote:
The New York Times has published a series of articles on Derek Boogaard, with the last of the articles appearing in today's edition.

Part 1: Learning to brawl
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/sport ... brawl.html

Part 2: Blood on the ice
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/sport ... e-ice.html

Part 3: A brain "going bad"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/sport ... g-bad.html

Of course, Bettman has said there's no link between traumatic brain injuty and hockey. I'd sooner trust the researchers from Boston University’s Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy when they say Boogaard brain was damaged.


Actually Boston U themselves cautioned against drawing definitive conclusions from these findings as there are still many unanswered questions. They made a later statement saying that the presence of damage to a man of Boo's age was alarming but clarified that it was in fact a mild case of CTE. This indicates to me that depression/behavior problems he may have been dealing with can likely be linked more directly to his abuse of prescription pain killers and booze.

An accumulation of repeated blows to the head are certainly not expected to be good for anyone though, that's not exactly an earthshaking discovery.


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 Post subject: Re: Punched Out: the life and death of Derek Boogaard
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An accumulation of repeated blows to the head are certainly not expected to be good for anyone though

Fuck, I'm doing it wrong...

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